tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9501938.post3371109030398616227..comments2023-11-05T08:01:10.010+00:00Comments on Think of England: Falls the shadowBrithttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00390560583798960760noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9501938.post-74644654932296915352009-09-22T18:53:08.792+01:002009-09-22T18:53:08.792+01:00Many discussions on free will descend quickly into...Many discussions on free will descend quickly into either/or debates about mundane things like whether one really <i>chooses</i> orange or grapefruit juice at breakfast or whether, <i>pace</i> McEwan, one actually controls one's fingers. Any scientist worth his or her salt could prove that Higuita's goalkeeping choices are determined. The psychologist would point to his daddy issues, theAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9501938.post-9063192029962636882009-09-22T16:13:39.940+01:002009-09-22T16:13:39.940+01:00Great stuff, lads. (Do pop in tomorrow, btw all, I...Great stuff, lads. (Do pop in tomorrow, btw all, I'll need your help with a question).<br /><br />Worm raises the psychoanalytical attack on free will - yet another problem for it, though the biggie, as Martpol points out, is the physical causal chain. <br /><br />A dilly of a pickle, free will. All logical inspection points to it being an illusion, yet every fibre of one's human being Brithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00390560583798960760noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9501938.post-68980762946544024462009-09-22T16:01:09.952+01:002009-09-22T16:01:09.952+01:00"if we had been in John Major's underpant..."if we had been in John Major's underpants, wouldn't we have?"<br /><br />favourite sentence of the week!!!!wormhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02802335627720182532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9501938.post-536552304513517242009-09-22T15:45:53.716+01:002009-09-22T15:45:53.716+01:00It is, I suppose, possible that we all have, to a ...It is, I suppose, possible that we all have, to a greater or lesser degree, split personalities, whilst personality A is running, personality B is dormant but constantly communicating, just below the surface. Those occasions when A and B conjoin above the surface results in either ecstasy or agony.maltyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02936465848907794425noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9501938.post-20636498829072277612009-09-22T15:37:00.808+01:002009-09-22T15:37:00.808+01:00Could be Worm, if we had been in John Major's ...Could be Worm, if we had been in John Major's underpants, wouldn't we have?<br /><br />On second thoughts that would involve Edwina, screw that for a lark, not literally of course.<br /><br />Just thinking about that has me desperately scrabbling up the wall of reality, falling back, landing on top of the pair of them, running off to a farm somewhere and sticking me head into a combine.maltyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02936465848907794425noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9501938.post-20333466794167372102009-09-22T15:35:44.707+01:002009-09-22T15:35:44.707+01:00Malty, this "urge to veer off in a different ...Malty, this <i>"urge to veer off in a different direction that motivated him"</i>...<br /><br />And Brit's <i>"I did want it to work. Or did I? I was conscious that I wanted it to work, which perhaps nullifies the effect"</i>...<br /><br />Remind me of the good trip/bad trip phenomenon that people widely report with psychedelics. Although the drug plays havoc with the martpolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08508497057736355841noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9501938.post-68685214825193539402009-09-22T14:49:00.228+01:002009-09-22T14:49:00.228+01:00Malty, do you think there's a link between thi...Malty, do you think there's a link between this 'urge to veer off in a different direction' and infidelity? Also with the male propensity for risk-taking in general?<br /><br />Something this discussion has reminded me of is the russian roulette scene in The Deerhunter where Christopher Walken almost comes to relish the act of putting the gun to his headwormhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02802335627720182532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9501938.post-61139573056146491642009-09-22T12:34:50.685+01:002009-09-22T12:34:50.685+01:00An acquaintance, a farmer, whilst in his twenties,...An acquaintance, a farmer, whilst in his twenties, stood for some time watching the whirring machinery of some farm implement. He put his arm in, which was torn off. Fortunately I suppose, to have survived, he often recalled the incident, to this day he swears it was not the hypnotic effect of the machinery but something, an urge to veer off in a different direction that motivated him. The term &maltyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02936465848907794425noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9501938.post-80627139223023786082009-09-22T11:26:50.740+01:002009-09-22T11:26:50.740+01:00Damn! Missed it. Why couldn't he force me to r...Damn! Missed it. Why couldn't he force me to remember to watch the show? It was the night my Sky+ box was playing up.Uncle Dick Madeleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01124053234469634414noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9501938.post-40328407296684357892009-09-22T11:13:10.949+01:002009-09-22T11:13:10.949+01:00Could 'free will' be a misnomer. From look...Could 'free will' be a misnomer. From looking at rubbish 70's student-staple book 'The Diceman' and Jungian psychology I always thought that you always, conciously or unconciously, set yourself parameters within which your actions occur.<br /><br />In the case of The Diceman, whilst the throwing of the dice was random, the 6 choices assigned to each number were not.<br /><br /wormhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02802335627720182532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9501938.post-21002758015936945772009-09-22T10:34:31.440+01:002009-09-22T10:34:31.440+01:00So was this an assertion of my free will or the op...<i>So was this an assertion of my free will or the opposite? The awful, nauseous freedom of the moment between between the conception and the creation, between the desire and the spasm, between the almost infinite range of things you could do, and what you do do.</i><br /><br />Fantastic musings, and free will is a fascinating thing. Surely all of us have, on considering free will, tried to jolt martpolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08508497057736355841noreply@blogger.com